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PostPosted: 18 Nov 2012, 10:56 pm 
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I'm still around and I'm watching you...

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Shorah!

I stop by every couple of months or so, but haven't logged in to Uru in ages. My login is not even recognized any more, it has been that long.

Active in There, with a few Uruites, but mostly new friends.

Still, I do keep hoping something new will spring up for Uru, even for those of us who do not know how to do the tech stuff, but enjoy the work of others.

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I suppose I'm still about, though I haven't logged on here for several years, however I've been active in MOULa every few months, but sadly there has been little change there... only the people come and go!
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PostPosted: 11 Apr 2013, 10:36 pm 
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!shorah, shadowfire

.te zuoy kenen gloahloy

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PostPosted: 22 Apr 2013, 10:58 am 
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Shorah Shadowfire and Dot.

I read that reply as

Spoiler:
In my end is my beginning



However, I'm not sure that a participle (glo-ahl) becomes a noun by adding a possessive suffix.
Even as a possessive with a participle, my beginning (of something) is not the same as my beginning (i.e. the beginning of me).

Perhaps on the principle that D'ni = new start, new beginning:

.te zuhoy kehnen nioy (or even d'nioy)?


However you say it, it's a nice thought, and very much in keeping with the idea behind D'ni.


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2013, 11:02 am 
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Shorah Stejovis. Thanks for the note. :)

The D'ni script saying was discovered carved on a wall in Neolbah.

Edit: Here's a photo of it:
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'In my end is my beginning'

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PostPosted: 25 Apr 2013, 10:15 am 
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Did that come from RAWA or did Andy or some other(s) from the GoW put that together?

Back when the DLF was still operating, any new discoveries had to have the approval of RAWA before they were admitted to the language. One of the reasons the DLF died out is that RAWA essentially stopped responding to requests for rulings; i.e. turnaround was veeeerrrrry slow, if at all. Not sure how that is played today, but linguistic rules still apply. From an IC perspective, we have to wonder if a newly found inscription that doesn't fit Old D'ni is original to the period for the find spot, or a later grafitto. Not sure how to test that though.

Of course, if this was approved by RAWA it becomes another data item for understanding the language.

[Not sure anybody cares about that kind of stuff anymore, but it was great fun to puzzle through for a time.]


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PostPosted: 25 Apr 2013, 12:19 pm 
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The background to discovery of this inscription and its transliteration/translation are given in my journal in Neolbah, including the names of those who helped. I suspect it might be a later grafitto, but I'm not sure of its date. It is the only inscription found in that place.

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PostPosted: 26 Apr 2013, 08:26 am 
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Ah, I see.
These notes?:
http://mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17633&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180
mid page?

Did Rehn mention that, assuming it is original to Neolbah, the inscription is a variant form of D'ni from that used in the cavern? Languages change most at the points were one culture meets another, but also when native speakers are isolated from one another for a very long time. One cannot tell too much from a single short inscription, but based on the nature of the difference from what would normally be expected, it would seem that the beings that created that inscription may have descended from cavern D'ni, but do not appear to have been of the same stock as those who had created the inscriptions most familiar to the DRC and explorers in Myst and Uru. Just exactly how different we cannot yet say. But it is tantalizing to have linguistic evidence of this diversification, which could certainly be expected, because profiling the diversification of the D'ni across the worlds they created or influenced is a rather exciting prospect. In examining the remains left on Neolbah, what kinds of other differences from the cavern D'ni were you able to observe? That might call for a separate thread, if you care to explore that. Or we can just note the curiosity and move on.


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